I’m Just Not Impressed

Am I supposed to be?

Anger is an energy.

with 8 comments

(Originally titled “I think you owe me a great big apology” – a quote from the NIN song “Terrible Lie”. He has sort of apologized for the “plump” remark, to be fair.)

So, Trent Reznor has decided to hang up his twitter hat. That’s nice. Not something I’d even really notice, since I’ve not been a big Nine Inch Nails fan for 15 years or so, if not for the acquaintance who pointed out this charming paragraph:

Looks like the Metal Sludge contingency has discover Twitter! Finally! For those of you that don’t know what this is, please let me explain. Metal Sludge is the home of the absolutely worst people I’ve ever come across. It’s populated mainly by unattractive plump females who publicly fantasize about having sex with guys in bands. Kind of like a role-playing game where people NOBODY will fuck make up stories about their incredible sexual encounters with people they WISH they could fuck. It would be kind of funny in a sad and pathetic way except the fun doesn’t stop there – hate and good old-fashioned outright blatant racism are also encouraged to spice things up and remind you how truly ugly these scourges are. TRULY ugly on the inside (the outside is obvious).

Ugly on the inside, indeed. Now, I know next to nothing about Metal Sludge and the Wiki is less than helpful. Nor do I really care. And maybe the majority of the people posting behind that fabulous page requiring an affirmation of the First Amendment are truly abhorrent, unpleasant people who no one really would want to wile away an hour or three with. I have not a clue (if they are truly obsessed with any band or celebrity to the point of sending death threats and hate mail and blatant racism, then, really, I wouldn’t want to invite them to a party).

But, if that’s the case, then why, pray tell, is is necessary to comment on their physical appearance? Why the fat-hating nastiness about the inherent unattractiveness of “plump” women. If they are truly such abhorrent specimens of humanity, it shouldn’t matter whether they are supermodels or, well, not supermodels. Making nasty claims about people’s appearance and supposed lack of sex life is pretty damn ugly too. I don’t care who you are.

Apparently Reznor did clarify his remarks here:

Just glanced at this stuff. May I clarify:
I have no issue with PLUMP people and I apologize if some of you incorrectly inferred I was equating being overweight to being unworthy. I used that term for two reasons: one – these cunts on MS portray themselves as in a very inaccurate way, because they can. It’s their one place they can wield a little power and escape their pathetic lives. Two – I knew it would hurt them and it most definitely has.
Place my comments in context. If you haven’t seen the type of comments we’ve been getting and the sheer level of ignorance, you have no reference in which to comment on this.

I know MOST of you are not a part of this and I didn’t mean to offend you – this situation has angered and saddened me.

And THAT is it from me on this topic. 

So, these folks actively misrepresent themselves (something which is clearly extremely rare on these here internets). I do not begrudge Reznor his anger. I do not begrudge him the loathing he has for people who send racist tirades about his fiancee or who send death threats or who are by all evidence rude, unpleasant, horrible people.

 I do, however, hold him to the same standard I would hold anyone – that mocking of appearance and sexual attractiveness, while easy and appealing – is still problematic, no matter how abhorrent the subject of the mockery.


Written by emandink

June 17, 2009 at 2:40 pm

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  1. I adore the man and his music. And yes, i’m a bit sensitive and felt the “plump” descriptor was offensive. Glad he addressed it (good lord, he had to since all us Plump chicks in my circle worship him) but then to call them “cunts”? I don’t begrudge his rage and he can say whatever the hell he wants to- but still i can’t shake the thought that if “dudes” did the same level of mud-flinging grossness, he wouldn’t use an engendered insult.

    Still, love him.


    June 17, 2009 at 3:12 pm

  2. I too, find his use of the word “cunts” in an apology pretty stupid.


    June 17, 2009 at 3:40 pm

  3. I’m not sure how I missed the “cunt” comment. Thanks for the comments!


    June 17, 2009 at 3:55 pm

  4. I also found the instructions on how to cut properly to be as horrid. Apparently, it’s a “thing” on the metal sludge boards, but I still think he was beyond irresponsible for saying it. After all, not everyone who follows him know anything about metal sludge. To me (and many others I’m sure) that just looked like he was taking a various serious mental health issue and making fun of it. Not OK>


    June 17, 2009 at 4:09 pm

  5. To Trent,

    Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. (Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil, Section 146)


    June 20, 2009 at 10:54 am

  6. “these folks actively misrepresent themselves”
    Ummm, TR, would “misrepresenting” be akin to singing lyrics about ’26 years & on my way to hell’ when in fact you were quite a bit older when you wrote that? Or how ’bout the mandate that stage personnel on the Fragility tour could not wear shirts with sleeves shorter than yours so as to not overshadow your newly beefy guns. The word cunt can be applied to more than just women, notmyfriend……


    June 20, 2009 at 1:52 pm

  7. […] Anger is an energy. (Originally titled “I think you owe me a great big apology” – a quote from the NIN song […] […]

  8. God! He sounds like such a self important idiot, not very surprising considering he’s a “rock star”. Those kind of people always think they are so much better than everyone else. Attacking people who attacked him for their supposed unattractiveness(to him)and possible mental problems isn’t a very mature and smart thing to do. He sounds just like a typical 17 year old boy to me!

    I’m definitely not a huge fan or anything, but I do like some of his songs…Though I have to say that anyone who has actually listened to Downward Spiral shouldn’t be at all surprised about his attitude to women. Misogyinsts usually don’t change over time you know…it’d sad but it’s true.


    June 22, 2009 at 3:38 am

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